Quotes plugin not fetching UK fund prices
Phil G
I'm using the Quotes and Exchange Rates extension and have added
several UK-based funds. I've added ticker symbols for those that
are listed on Yahoo Finance UK, and set the extension to fetch
Current Security Prices from there. I've set the Stock Exchange for
each fund to London Exchange (Pence).
However, when I go to the extensions Advanced option and run a
Test, then it doesn't fetch anything. Clicking the Test Result
(which says x Current Quote: (!) I get an alert which
says:
Ticker Symbol: null
History: User chose not to update
Current Quote: Connection refused
As an example, one of the funds is listed here: http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GB0006833718.L&ql=1
I've tried using Ticker Symbols with and without the extra
.L. I hoped it might be a temporary thing when I
started using the extension a month ago, but haven't seen any
improvement. Thanks.
2 Posted by richard f on 30 Apr, 2012 06:04 PM
Sorry this won't help solve the problem but might add weight to getting an answer. I'm using the trial version and want to buy but not if the share price updating doesn't work.
I have exactly the same problem as Phil G - same error message with a number of different funds, also using Yahoo Finance UK.
Support Staff 3 Posted by Ben Spencer on 02 May, 2012 01:10 AM
While Yahoo make mutual price information visible on their website they no-longer make the data downloadable. (This only affects UK mutual fund symbols) I am afraid that we do not have a solution to this.
Sincerely
Ben Spencer
Moneydance Support
Ben Spencer closed this discussion on 02 May, 2012 01:10 AM.
lugs2009 re-opened this discussion on 02 May, 2012 07:29 AM
4 Posted by lugs2009 on 02 May, 2012 07:29 AM
Thanks for the reply - what a shame. I think I might have to keep plodding on with my unsupported Quicken (not that downloads work on that either.)
Regards, Richard
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5 Posted by james f on 02 May, 2012 11:18 AM
lugs2009 and richard f,
It's a Yahoo Finance UK issue. Yahoo Finance UK is to blame Moneydance.
If you've began using Moneydance, then why not stay with it.
Moneydance has a wonderful Support Staff. The Support Staff is augmented by a huge, user based and knowledgable, world wide, support group.
richard f,
Aside from the Yahoo Finance UK Issue, which is the fault of Yahoo Finance UK and not that of Moneydance, is there any other reason for not buying the License Key to Moneydance?
6 Posted by lugs2009 on 04 May, 2012 09:05 AM
Hi James. I'm not sure if you're a Moneydance employee or enthusiastic user but it seems odd to be talking about 'blame'. I don't see it as anyone's fault but the fact remains that unfortunately it doesn't
do what I hoped it would and whose 'fault' it is doesn't change that. It would have been helpful if the website had mentioned that the updater doesn't work for UK funds - perhaps it does say that and I missed it.
I haven't ruled out continuing with Moneydance as I like the rest of what I've seen but why would I spend money on something that doesn't do more than the Quicken program I have? Alternatively the Banktree updater does work (using Bloomberg) and I think Banktree is cheaper than Moneydance, but I'm not so keen on some of the other features.
Thanks for the input.
Richard
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7 Posted by james f on 04 May, 2012 12:27 PM
I'm not a Moneydance employee. I've been a Moneydance user since 2002.
Why spend Moneydance?
Well, from what I understand about Quicken in the U.K., Moneydance is current and well supported by both it's user base and the Staff at Moneydance while Quicken is way out of date. I don't know if it still a supported product by Intuit, you can fill in as to whether it is still a supported product in the U.K.
8 Posted by Phil Gyford on 04 May, 2012 02:40 PM
The best action for Moneydance to take at this point would be to indicate somewhere in the software (and documentation) that mutual fund symbols cannot be updated in the UK. It doesn't matter who's fault it ultimately is *cough* Yahoo *cough*, but this would save anyone else wasting too much time trying to get it to work. Thanks.
9 Posted by Alan on 08 May, 2012 05:11 PM
Like richard f (Apr 30th), I am currently assessing Moneydance using the trial version. I have converted many years' transactions from Quicken very successfully and I am pleased with my initial use of Moneydance.
However I have two issues - one I am raising on a different conversation but the other concerns the updating of UK security prices, including shares & mutual funds or OEICs.
Ben Spencer says above that Moneydance do not have a solution to the fact that Yahoo information is no longer downloadable. If Yahoo cannot be persuaded to change their policy, there are surely other possible sources of the information.
Moneydance will probably have to pay but then I expect to have to pay Moneydance if I decide to switch from the trial version!
Is it too much to ask Moneydance to be pro-active on this issue for the benefit of their current & prospective UK customers.
10 Posted by anthonypinkfish on 07 Jul, 2012 09:27 PM
I am in the some place with this issue.
I would buy money dance if the product automatically updates UK mutual funds.
Please also note that my 14y old MS Money still updates UK mutuals funds, so it might be worth switching to the same data source.
Anthony
11 Posted by Mickey on 28 Nov, 2012 11:43 PM
Hi,
Just downloaded MoneyDance tonight and had hoped it would update UK fund prices, cash is ready but no fund updates is a bit of a deal breaker for me. Having said that, I'll try updating manually and if that is okay then this could finally be the replacement for MS Money.
12 Posted by -Kevin N. on 29 Nov, 2012 12:06 AM
Hi Mickey,
Moneydance gleans it quotes data from Yahoo and Google. For some reason these entities stopped updating most UK fund prices almost a year ago.
That's the bad news.
The good news is that there is a free extension that makes it easy to manually update price quotes.
Look to the Security Price Entry extension from Songline Software:
https://sites.google.com/site/songlinesoftware/
HTH -Kevin N.
13 Posted by lugs2009 on 29 Nov, 2012 04:57 PM
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14 Posted by Mickey on 29 Nov, 2012 06:17 PM
Thanks Kevin
15 Posted by maptin on 06 Apr, 2013 08:52 AM
on-line quotes for UK funds are available from ftfunds.com, morningstar.co.uk, trustnet.com, citywire.co.uk, etc.
I have written add-ons for the Perl Finance::Quote module (as used by gnucash - open source, fully featured, no charge) which will use these sources to automatically update funds prices.
It shouldn't be difficult for the people at Moneydance to use these sources.